G force bolt stop

[marshall87]

Does the g force bolt stop work on aftermarket bolt kits? I have a Gen-E bolt kit and I didn't reall wanna get an orracle. If it does then how well does it work

[Spectre]

Yes, and it works good. Run a search, I know there's some info somewhere.

[Sandman]

I think Hawk has one of those & I believe he made a modification to it too!

Something to do with a wagon wheel :wink:

[DunkinDonuts]

The G Force Spacer is designed for use with the stock bolt.. Using it with an aftermarket bolt will not allow the bolt proper clearance in the breach. The bolt will stick foward too much even after the 1/4 turn from Snug...

[sdramones]

About how far do you have to unscrew the back plug for the bolt to clear the breech? 1/2 turn? One whole turn? All the way out?

[doby45]

I would believe you Donut if I did not have someone on my team running a TMC bolt kit and a G-Force Bolt Stop. Once again this is a fact, not hear say. So it IS possible, please do not post that something WILL NOT allow something to work properly when in fact it will.

[Hawk]

The G-force Spacer works fine with aftermarket bolts- so long as you 1) follow the directions stating that you only back the blug out 1/8 of a turn and not a 1/4, and 2) that it is facing the correct direction. One side is recessed and should face the front of the gun.
If you were having a problem with the bolt sticking too far forward, then you had it in backwards. I had done that once and I was mystified at what the problem was.
Here's a pic of mine now:
http://www.priority1pb.com/hawk/Wagonwheel.jpg
I "opened" it up more for a higher air-flow. The side you are looking at is the recessed side.

[DunkinDonuts]

I spoke with the man who built these stops, also the owner of G-Force ay skyball about my concerns about the bolt not going back enough.. His first question was what bolt are you using?? I said, the AArdvark Red bolt kit - of course.. He said, that's why.. The bolt stop was designed for use in the stock matrix.. with the stock bolt.. ALL aftermarket bolts are longer than the stock.. Thereby causing the problem I had.. He said try it with the stoock bolt and it should work.. I did, and it did.. I tried using it again with my aardvark bolt with the same poor results as before.. I tried backing my plud out 1/4 1/8 1/2 a turn.. No change.. Please feel free to call him if you don't beleive me..

[chrisfx811]

is g- force the only ones "currently" making aftermarket bolt stops?
i haven't heard anything from darin about the orracle

[doby45]

Give me a phone number and I will. Once again this is not words that are being spouted off, I FACTUALLY play next to a guy (Hawk) that has a TMC Gold Bolt kit and he uses a G-Force stop. Now if you want me to call the owner/designer/maker of the G-Force stop and tell him that some guy swears that the G-Force stop does not work on an aftermarket bolt, I guarentee you he will be mad cause that would prolly cut his business by about 90%.

[Spectre]

http://www.gforcepb.com/securestore/Info.2.html

[doby45]

Welp I just got word back from Garfield, owner of G-Force. Now this is the kicker Donuts is right, in speaking with Garfield he said that the original G-Force stop was NOT designed for the after market bolts. I explained to him that one of my teammates was running the stop on his aftermarket bolt. Now he did say that due to different tolerances and such that may be why it works on Hawks. Now he also said that G-Force is coming out with a new bolt stop within next month. This will be built specifically for the after market bolts and will increase the flow between the two chamber even more. He also made mention of a LPR that G-Force is working on and should have ready somewhere toward the end of summer. Seems like more good things to come from G-Force. By the way, he did make mention when he was speaking about the strength of his product that some guy named Hawk had "milled" the G-Force spacer down to almost nothing and that Garfield had seen it on some website. At that time I started giggling and I told Garfield that the Hawk he was speaking of was none other than our teams Hawk. I told Garfield that maybe on down the road we could send him Hawk's stop and he can put it in the G-Force museum. :P

[Spectre]

... At that time I started giggling and I told Garfield that the Hawk he was speaking of was none other than ...

Funny, you don't seem like the giggling type :wink:

Gforce is one of my favorite places for Matrix stuff. I always get my orings and screws from them. Looking into one of those triggers now..

[doby45]

Well it is actually more of a chuckle. :P

[DunkinDonuts]

hey doby, less hating, more helping - OK?

[Hawk]

DD, you're a little slow on the posts here. LOL
As Doby said - you were right.
Now stop patting yourself on the back and get out there and bunker someone!!!!!!!!!!

[Rancid1845]

umm ...sorry for the stupidity..but what does this mod do in the first place.??

[Spectre]

umm ...sorry for the stupidity..but what does this mod do in the first place.??

Just increases air flow. Like the oracle does.

[Rancid1845]

so what does this increased air flow accomplish

[Spectre]

Faster recharge rate and lets you go deeper into your tank fill, thereby giving more shots.

[Rancid1845]

does it raise the bolt pressure like the top hat mod does....or will i still keep the low op pressure

[Hawk]

nope

[DunkinDonuts]

DD, you're a little slow on the posts here. LOL
As Doby said - you were right.
Now stop patting yourself on the back and get out there and bunker someone!!!!!!!!!!
no patting just bunkering